One time we were having a fight and we had a couple of guys up on a roof. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. DiVincenzos elbow took another bullet, which passed through his arm. They cornered him, stabbed him three times, and shot him in the ass. the Saracen Lords and the Nobles. Thats how the whole biker thing came about first. I was always aware. On February 23, 2018, my book on the Mau Maus and Sand Street Angels, who were two Brooklyn youth gangs from the 1950s, has . 90K views 13 years ago Gang turf of the Corona Dukes, Arthur Avenue Boys, and the Fordham Baldies. John Gotti, too. I got locked up with another friend of mine. We called ourselves the Capris if you can believe it. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. That was right before the Kennedy assassination. The Fordham Rams are members of NCAA Division I and compete in the Atlantic 10 Conference for most sports. We were never really into robbing people. Right now, the Majestics is a motorcycle club. Forget about iteverywhere you went, every corner, the drugs were there. I didnt take no shit from nobody. But yeah, I broke into every factory. Our "uniform" was teal bowling shirts with black velvet vertical stripes. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. Such rumors would often bring along a large police presence, and long disruptions. This time we were up on the roofs throwing things down on them: Bricks, bottles, cans you could kill somebody if you hit em with a garbage can of rocks from 50 feet up. The bond between people who were in gangs was amazing. I think Frankie got the best of him, and they got back in the cars, and Frankie chased him. This let anyone down in the park know you were coming. Then he became the President of the Majestics. It was just fighting all the time. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. Thats where the money was. When the pill came, everything changed. Inside, sipping a soda, was Ernest Montuoro. Go home. Bernard Caleo and Angelo DiVincenzo were seated on the stoop in front of the candy store, unaware of what was about to happen. One of us would move out of a place, and ten families would move in. 1926), Words gane to the kitchen,And words gane to the ha,That Marie Hamilton gangs wi bairnTo the hichest Stewart of a.Unknown. We gotta watch our back. Youd bring a girl with you so she could hold the gun. Everybody wants to make a name for themselves, a reputation. Because of this gang fights between the two groups became the norm. He couldnt show up to collect his rent. The official 2023 Women's Volleyball Roster for the Fordham University Rams Its where the old freight trains used to run out of Long Island City. Convicted Red Wings were Frank Ciappetta, Vincent Gugliemelli, Philip Bonanno, Jerry Santaniello and Frank Giampetruzzi. So it worked both ways. Everybody knew who we were. Even some of the names used are real. Hustle to get money for breakfast, eat, get high. Little by little the white gang broke up. Set in the Bronx in 1963, the film follows a gang of Italian-American teenagers known as the Wanderers and their ongoing power struggles with rival gangs such as the Baldies and the Wongs. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. This was our life. In fact, all three people who were involved in the murder ended up dying within three years of it. Me and my brother are probably the only ones that dont have a bike. It had to be girls who were in that particular gang. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. You could find it in the grocery store if you wanted it bad enough. We had a buyer for every piecenot even from garages. The Baldies, who outnumbered the Red Wings eventually chased them off the beach. We were just crooks, you know what I mean? Fourth, sources.I will be doing some more research and adding much more information. It was about territory. I never did, but I know there were guys in the gang that did. Department Chair: Dr. Ipsita Banerjee (JMH 642) Associate Chair: Dr. Joshua Schrier (JMH 616) Administrator: Adriana Magnotta (JMH 642) Ipsita Banerjee, Ph.D. All of them met violent deaths. I mean, I know I never did it. The book is 6x9 and has 370 pages! Everyone had a little more respect in them days. So I think a lot of it had to do with that. The balcony on 204th and the 'tunnels', and the whole area surrounding Twin Lakes was our turf! One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. Overdosed, stuff like that. We didnt have rules or initiations. Farmer was a polio stricken kid who was attacked by a gang called: "The It was just that I started hanging out over here more than over at the other side. When I was growing up, stealing old ladies pocketbooks was the big thing. We went up there and basically we started hanging out and we became the Railroad Boys. that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). I go to a funeral now and I dont even cry. Looking to gather allies to their fight as the Del-Bombers have bigger numbers, The Wanderers get rejected (humiliatingly) by the Fordham Baldies and by the Chinese Wongs. We had nobody left, so we said, Whats the use in fighting? We got to the point where we got older, we had girlfriends, we started getting cars, and we left the neighborhood. We spent a night one time stripping a whole car completely down to the chassis. We would let him go because he was with his girl. They were with them most of the day. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. Our turf was Lee Avenue and Lynch Street. A lot of guys got hurt, and a couple a guys got hurt really bad. You have it all. Their gang was the Comanchero Chaplains. The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. Mostly it was breaking into factories in Brooklyn. 42nd Street was like a neutral area, unless you ran into clubs from different boroughs. From the sweaters we went to a shirt, and from the shirt we finally got to patches. The Micheal Farmer killing was an incident that happened during the showing of West We started saying, Why dont we make patches? And finally we did. Basically, the Dirty Ones was the only gang that was friendly with us. The landlord wasnt going to come and tell us we couldnt do itwed kick his fuckin ass. Unless this was a separate incident, the gang was not the Redwings, but the Sinners. I wound up doing like 13 years and change in jail. It was an abandoned building. We never went crazy in our neighborhood, and whoever did, they would hear about it from us the next day. It also made us brother clubs with the Redwings, who were in East Harlem. THE 5TH (EAST,TREMONT AND MAPES AVE.) area in the 1970's: THE BLACK SPADES, PEACE MAKERS, HARLEM TURKS, 7 IMMORTALS, P.O.W.E.R. --rocketrye12 talk/contribs 03:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I moved it to Bronx gangs (mid-twentieth century), please mind your capitalization. They were all afraid of us. Little Italy was strictly Italian. I personally didnt believe in jumping people. The University also supports a number of club sports, and a significant intramural . You have your murderers, your rapists, your thieves. We would hang out in these abandoned buildings that we had electricity running into. Then you were on file. I removed the references to Brooklyn gangs in popular culture - does not make any sense to have them there - this article is not about Brooklyn. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. What do you think?--rocketrye12 talk/contribs 04:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry, didn't see this discussion - I changed the name to Bronx gangs (1950s-1960s) because that is specifically what is being discussed. Back then, if a car sat for a day, wed strip it. He didnt have to worry about his building getting messed up, because we wouldnt allow that. First, we need to find some places that we could link to this page, so it gets some visibility. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. That means turn your jacket around or take it off. But the thing is, there never is an invasion. Before that, date rape was the usual. People were sniffing glue, so the bodegas began to sell glue because it was so popular. I proposed some sections, but there is still lots of work to be done. Was a wild time growing up, some bad, some good, but many learning experiences came from those times. one fistfights and it would be over. We were trying to imitate them. 98.224.236.117 (talk) 03:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. He had hair just like mussolini in real life, and I'm the princess of canada although I can't offically back that up with paperwork. It was a handful of us that really made most of the noise. The Wanderers (1979) - The Fordham Baldies MOV Clips 31.8K subscribers Subscribe 178 25K views 2 years ago American comedy-drama film written and directed by Philip Kaufman and starring Ken Wahl,. I was a heroin addict from the age of maybe 13 to 17, but not like a falling-down addict. 42nd Street was like Mecca, where all the gangs would hang out on Friday night. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. They wear leather jackets with a skull on the back and "FB" (Fordham Baldies) on the arm. There were some crazy kids, though. It was the fact that they were so cool with us. Tvoz | talk 06:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I agree with and understand all the changes. It took a lot of people out. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bronx_gangs_(1950s1960s)&oldid=1101692437, This redirect does not require a rating on the project's, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 09:49. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. I left it, but recommend changing that line. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. The Hunts Point area is the poorest place you can be. You could see how things escalated. It made more money. We went for the cheap wine. Ducking from shootouts and things like that. In the back of the park there was a cemetery, and in the cemetery there was a hill. We had a gang that started in high school. had zip-guns. He was from the Marcy Projects and he would always come down with a gun. There were real gangsters around too. If you looked down the hill toward Evergreen Avenue, there was a schoolyard, and thats where all the black kids used to hang out. Lots of guys were fucking up, but all I wanted was to have our club, and for everybody to have bikes and go places together and ride. The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. They thought I had control over their leader. I was from one side of the Southside, and the Unknowns were from the other side. He was invincible. I'll always have the memories of those times. "I was a member of that Ducky gang, did some streetsmart growing up with them. The gangs -- with names such as the Ducky Boys, Del Bombers and Fordham Baldies (who really are bald) -- are racially segregated. We were so fuckin' broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. So we all hang out now, go to parties, things like that. Wed be going across the Williamsburg Bridge, shooting at them, them shooting at us. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety. So this guy started going off with everybody. They gave my brother a summons, and I stood in jail for a decade and change. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. Then, you know, the blacks started coming in and naturally there was tension and we banded together. Next thing you knew, youd be fighting. The son made it seem like it was a burglary, and we made off with all his weapons. It was easier to sell. Who was I supposed to hang out with? They had another Italian neighborhood, down on Cherry Street and Madison that was just the same as ours. I dont have any emotions anymore. Over the course of one or two summers, they outnumbered us. They gave you your JD card, which means juvenile delinquent, so that was the label you carried, you know what I mean? About Us Site Map Contact Us Great American Youth Book Lords Of Kilbourn Book, Greaser Magazine: "Rising Up Angry:" Stone Greaser Grapevine, Debbie Kozlarek/Carolyn Vandermolen Murders, The Teddy Girls Gang - Great Britain 1950s, Mighty Zulu Nation, Universal Zulu Nation Gang history, Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War, SBB Garfield Boys verses Red Hook Tigers article, Brass Knuckle Tales 50's Street Gang Looks Back, Jimmy the Gent Burke Rest in Peace Article, Harlem Red Wings/Northmen Street Gang article. Back in the early days, we used to have a habit of snatching their hats. Now all girls think giving a blowjob is nothing. That was a typical night. In 1959, a member of the Dragons was killed in a fight with the Viceroys. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? After that I knew it was nothing serious, so I never bothered to go to the hospital. The Jewish part of East Harlem was mostly west of 2nd Avenue. We did not have a name but the name Duckie Boys did exist. I always sniffed. Our big thing was buying cough medicine. Indeed, I started this at someone else's suggestion, with the understanding that s/he would pick up from there. They didnt like me too much. Sometimes wed say, Come on up. Sometimes people got hit by cars. Heroin was a big thing in the 60s. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. So a lot of guys ODd. Second, I want to expand the introduction. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. He left behind a wife and child. We were fighting with everybody. Who the hell knows whats in your brain? When we were on Lee Avenue there was this black guy. Everything started out with sweaters. People hustled their money. These are the people that we grew up with. We never had problems against each other, because we grew up in the same neighborhood. By the time Henry and Stephanie reached junior high school, gangs were becoming an issue, particularly the Fordham Baldies. If somebody says, Oh, let me see your colors, turn around, its not something you do. Take on the world. I got arrested October 1980, came home December 1993. Giampetruzzi, Bonano, Santanielli and the rest of the Red Wings high tailed it out of the Bronx back to East Harlem, seething over the insults and plotting revenge. The Woodside Chiefs, of whom I was a member were not a gang. Wed drink winewere talking now maybe one oclock in the afternoon. They had a lotta heart. People from the neighborhood never called the cops on us because we were never troublemakers. I turned out to be one of them, and it cost me a lot. This event took place in Washington Heights, I've watched the movie The Wanderers each time it's been on, and still get a kick out of how the Ducky gang was supposed to be represented. With that money Id buy wine and cigarettes. Ciappetta and Gugliemelli were charged with 2nd Degree Murder and the others with 1st Degree Manslaughter. The Red Wings with Frank that June 1 were John Hall, Louis DePetris, Philip Bonnano, Jerry Santaniello and a girl only known as Bella. For instance, my friend Dusty got stabbed, and he came back from the Bronx really late, and I hung out with him the whole night at the hospital. So every day somebody else would wear the jackets at school. They were like, "Who's the. Like I remember coming home and having my sister-in-law crying, and I would walk in the house and make believe I didnt know why. Rainy days, wed be inside watching TV. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." Richard Price lived in Parkside Projects and hung out with a different crowd then us. Like 12 or 13. Want to go to the college that inspired <i>Animal House</i>? Its even like that now. That wasnt allowed in that neighborhood because that old lady may be some big shot gangsters relative. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. It really wasnt a good way to come up, but thats just the way the neighborhood was. Anybody who had a Boy after their nameJohnny Boy, Frankie Boythey were always in trouble, cause they were always trying to prove they were a man. All except the sadistic Ducky Boys who seem to suddenly materialize at the opportune moment, are more like social clubs and do little besides partying and hanging out. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. From the Jewish girls mostly, not from Catholic girlsnot when I was a kid. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. You showed up at the park at seven and we walked down Bushwick Avenue and wed do what we had to do. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. I remember the older guys coming around and passing the word that if any white kid in the neighborhood stole an old ladys pocketbook, they would have their hands and legs broken. I would buy it from Italian guys over on Avenue D, but not guys that we actually knew. It wasnt about, This is where were hanging out, anymore. The area between Pleasant and 1st, and blocks between1st and 2nd were predominately Italian. We had everything sold by sunrise. But I never did. Turns out he was an innocent bystander. I mean, I could have been arrested for date rape a million times. Us, the Chaplains, and the Spanish guys all got together and they gave us an ultimatum: Either we made peace or we were gonna start going to jail. It was all music and sex and everybody getting high. When they started with the knives, we started with the zip guns. They werent allowed to date outside girls. Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. When we were done I carried him up four flights of stairs on my shoulders to his house, stoned out of my head. Like one time, I saw it was clear through so I just patched it up, and forgot about it. Then you had the Satans Souls for a while, who were on South 5th and Hoover. There were six of them and two of us. When I stepped off the train, I saw all these abandoned buildings, and every night there were the sirens of the fire trucks, and people being displaced, crying, no place to go. Wed hang out in the park at night. 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