From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. See photo for details, including a small hole poked in the paper case- not a big deal, but we don't like to surprise people. The pistol barrel has an extra handle to steady the gun when firing. In 1912, the Royal Mail Steam Packet utilized Schermuly rockets and others would follow. Basement This example shows a 1 5/8" bore in the 13" barrel. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. your connection to Schermuly as they have been wondering for years about their stock control position . Not eligible for payment with Paypal or Amazon. They have the correct wartime period British proofs and Schermuly Patents 179997. This pistol set represents a very unique piece of nautical history, and would complement any collection of nautical or WWII artifacts. Please see our. British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott No2-MkI Flare/Signal Pistol. Light to moderate wear throughout. This WW1 piece was probably Canadian issue in WW1. A very unusual Schermuly Line Throwing Pistol that was invented for saving life at sea. Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. Within a year the business was stable. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. The device would have to be inexpensive, reliable, compact, and easy to use even in the worst of conditions. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Lanyard loop. I'd guess that it's someone's name, or a company's name, since it's capitalised, but I can't find anything via an Internet search about it. Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. Israeli Flare Gun Holster, Green / Khaki Canvas, *Very Good* $11.95. For example https://lik-o-dil-es.blogspot.com/2018/02/15-mm-signalnye-patrony-so-strelyayushchim-mekhanizmom-signal-ohotnika.html --Estimata698 (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]. Note that while these were made after 1898, special provisions in federal law exempt them from the normal post-1898 handgun FFL procedures, and they can be ordered just like an antique firearm, without need for a FFL so we are listing them here: **NEW ADDITION** 7104 BRITISH SCHERMULY ROCKET PISTOL APPARATUS (SRPA) LINE THROWING GUN - Serial number 20148 made circa 1940-1960. Very scarce and no information found after a diligent search of everything I could think of. you certify that you understand and agree to these terms. The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. Information- click here. Gvjschermuly@gmail.com thanks. Upper photos show the gun for sale; lower photo shows a different gun with a rocket so you can see what they look like. The wood grips are made of mahogany. By 1926, the Schermuly Pistol Rocket Appartus, Ltd. took form, and the family business could now produce their own device to their own satisfaction. FFL holders often charge a small fee for handling these transfers, as well as Cowboy & Old Western History Not sure it especially due to gun control, maybe more that they are easy to carry. William Schermuly's previous line throwing inventions were pretty bulky and he wanted to perfect a device which a child could use. 4/7/2023 The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. Loaded, live round, but due to age and expired status sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. Brass frame. Line throwing guns are still used to this day in the commercial and military sectors, and the Schermuly name remains closely tied to parachute flares. All A tremendous swimmer, a fighter, and an adventurous spirit, the man did not lack for courage, nor the vocabulary of an old salt, once describing himself as an old blue water windjammer shellback (translation: a sailor who went out into deep ocean on the largest sailing cargo ships and crossed the equator). Robert Shackleton outfitted one on the Endurance, and other famous explorers gave their glowing endorsements. & Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > . and make no claims as to fitness for use. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions, Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. This is a pair of extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistols fitted with extra long barrel extensions. This is a scarce, commercial proofed British No. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. Schermuly was a family business. There is not much information on total numbers made or other indication of relative rarity, but it is a good starting point for further research. (low melting point) And on one memorable occasion I came within a few steps of being brained by the metal sleeve for the rocket dropping out of the sky, Dont forget the early webley/schermuly riot guns too http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30032636, Occasionally the twecky household received stocks of shelf expired schermuly marine products to be (illegally, I am sure) disposed of on bonfire night. Billlion (talk) 15:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. The new apparatus would utilize the quick-firing, weather-proof projectile less effected by wind, as well as the far-traveling, easy-to-see, virtually recoilless rocket that wouldnt snap the lifelines. It was reborn many times with the demands of the Second World War. This book is the best single reference on this subject for collectors today. I was going to include the riot gun, not sure why I forgot! If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. Following his lead, numerous ship-borne devices became available to save grounded ships, but they were inaccurate, prone to water damage, complicated, or worse. I discovered that it is missing the extractor, but since no one has the impulse cartridges or rockets any more who cares. I am not sure what the purpose of the article Firearm (tool) is but in this context someone who did not know might be think that the distinction between firearms and guns is that the former is not used to kill people! We assume no liability for accidents or injuries resulting from The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus by Joel R Kolander. Bayonets Firearms with fascinating histories such as this abound in our firearms auctions, and the 2018 June Regional Firearms Auction is no exception. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022). Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus Ltd Rocket flare firing gun 1 Inch Flare/Very/signal Pistol. 1941 - 1945 Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. This period of numerous rejections and disinterest, he dubbed, his heartbreak years. Eventually, early adopters began to step forward. Both pistols are currently live having only just been discovered. These guns were used by the Royal Navy and other military units during WW1. The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus (SPRA) was born and immediately began outperforming the competition, often doubling or tripling the distance of other ship-to-shore systems and demonstrating numerous advantages of old shore-to-ship systems such as the Lyle gun. 12/7/2022, U.S. Longarms No more results - here are some we think you might . (LogOut/ (LogOut/ Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. 245 US$306/278 Verey 1 inch Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (6) S/H Buckinghamshire British Schermuly`S Wwi & 2 Line Throwing / Flare Gun For Sale at GunAuction.com - 11192178 NEW REDUCED PRICE, WAS $650 NOW $575 This is a RARE Square Butt, Shermuly's Line Throwing Rocket / Flare Gun. The brass butt cap, trigger guard and band have a mellow golden patina. 12/7/2022, Books for November 1918. Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. The Merchant Shipping Act of 1929 enforced a requirement for all ships to carry a line throwing apparatus, 19 days later, William Schermuly dies, his lifes work of saving sailors lives complete. The pattern #179997 is noted on the frame. Advert Login Register. 450ONO No more results - here are some we think you might like. If you have a Curio & Relic FFL, we can ship items considered by the BATF 1 Mark III flare signal pistol marked SPRA for the Schermuly Pyrotechnic Rocket Association on the frame and commercial crown proofs on the barrel. The word Schermuly is synonymous with an illumination parachute flare but where does it come from? directly to you, as long as there are no state or local restrictions (California??). to Collectors Headquarters. 4/7/2023, Handguns This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. Made by Schermuly on a brass framed signal (flare) pistol No.1 Mk III* with the addition of a steel barrel and handle. 3/9/2023, US Militaria However, it was not enough. UPDATE: 4/22/2012 This gun isn't for sale on Gunbroker any longer, but this gun is Steven Johnson has a page on William Schermuly and his inventions. These were used with the International Flare Signal and Kilgore Model 52 flare guns, and probably all the other heavy 37mm flare guns with barrels about 8 inches long. Prices: British Pounds, Arundel Militaria. Books and manuals on guns and other subjects Click here for more information. BL: 36.6cms From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. The design is based on the WWI Webley MKIII* brass flare pistols of the same period however, this variant has a much longer barrel extensions measuring 6.5 inches with the overall barrel length being 9 inches. A handsome example of the classic military single shot flintlock pistol, albeit lacking specific identification. It is a simple shotgun-like device, designed to project riot control munitions, such as CS gas projectiles or, more commonly, baton rounds. BRITISH WW2 MILITARY ISSUED COMBINATION LINE THROWING AND FLARE GUN. Crapper & Co Ltd. 5636) This item was for sale as of 02:53, 28 Dec 22. to customers outside the United States. Collectible Antique Handguns Cheers.InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply], During 73 war between Eygept and Israel, a naval officer (lut. Your last viewed and saved ads will appear here, Your last viewed and saved searches will appear here, Please select a location from the drop-down list. Perhaps if someone has a source, an explanation for that term can be added to the article? His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. Finally, he came up with a design that was small, easily aimed and fired, accurate and simple to use the Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus. It had to be large enough to carry adequate propellant but not large enough to excessively increase the weight or be effected too much my wind. Price for Kilgore GR-52 line throwing pistol and one fired case is $265.00 (View Picture). 12/7/2022, Accessories & Parts This is the International Number 2 size unit, using 41mm rockets, with 15 7/8 barrel.