I wanted to take time to thank you and your staff for a great hunting experience. Thanks again for all your help. I did a quick rough score on my stag and it should be between SCI 310 and SCI 320. Elk Photos # 2. In 2012, even though, there were some rather serious health issues present, we completed several projects and purchased some more land adjacent to the Mobley Place on 22. About Us. Thank you, to ALL. Due to the changing weather patterns we need to adjust thetiming of the hunting seasoons and they need to do that NOW. All Right Reserved. Non-resident Wyoming Game and Fish license fees are: Deer: $389.00 Youth Deer: $125.00. You guys are top notch, good honest people to deal with., The Casper Ranch Antelope Hunt was exactly as you described. A whole bunch of elk., So, now towards the end of January, the herds of elk, ever so lazily, have decided to move. John Chapin and son John P. wrote: Thank you for all your generosity and kindness. During this time, the rut is in full swing so expect to see many animals and breathtaking views during your hunt, a real bucket-list opportunity. Thanks again. Brennen C. LOCATION: The ranches are located about 45 minutes from Casper, in Natrona County. When you go does not much matter because there are plenty of antelope. We have approximately 11,000 acres that is divided into private ranches to provide you the opportunity to hunt exclusively with your group. I never hunted such rich grounds. Very convenient location relative to town and truly remarkable amounts of game.A piece of Heaven on Earth. Wyoming State Parks, CAREERS Because Antelope Hunt Area Type 2 licenses, which are valid only on private lands, are a guaranteed draw, most hunters make arrangements for hunting a year or more in advance. These late season cow hunts are so much fun. 5-day hunt $1,495. Thank you, again.". Enjoyed the facilities and pool the rest of the time. In Craig we have a very nice City Market grocery store and a Walmart, where you can buy your groceries, your licenses, ammo and appropriate clothing, if you left home without some items. Mainly just for our doe tags. This can help or hurt, so do be aware of it. If it rains (not likely), these unpaved roads can get quite slippery. Even so, some elk are still hanging around and can be seen from the ranch house. Non-Resident Full Price/Regular with Preference Point $372; without Preference Point $341. Feel free to use me as a reference. My guide for my hunt was outstanding. Kerry and I had a great time at your ranch this year. And it was very reasonably priced to boot. Neither one of us expected to have access to the numerous hunting blinds throughout the property, which added to our hunting experience. A Youth license is available for kids 12 to 18 years of age for $125. THE HUNTERS HARVESTED SOME GREAT ANIMALS AND WENT HOME WITH THEIR TROPHIES. Prairie Dog Hunting The summer months offer some beautiful views and lots of great activities on the Cross "C' Ranch. In recent years we have only had about 4 or 5 hunters actually draw each year, so there is plenty of available animals and hunt success is 100% regardless of dates! 3 Mountains, 8000 Acres. Here are some: Tom Shepard from California wrote: "Dear Aleka, I wanted to take time to "Thank" you and your staff for a great hunting experience! Our county has the largest antelope population in the United States along with a 100% success rate to date. Rawlins, WY Visit Website Peak View Outfitters - Baggs Offers rifle hunts during the month of October for elk and deer on private property. Some of the hunters had to go back home emptyhanded. Non-Resident Special with Preference Point $660; without Preference Point $629, Non-Resident Full Price/Regular with Preference Point $372; without Preference Point $341, You guys are top notch, good honest people to deal with, Mailing: 3020 Bear Bay Road, Myakka City, FL 34251. Fishing licenses can be purchased over the counter. He is a very personable and knowledgeable young man and a great pilot. Both had a good amount of land and animals, I would never pay $350. and, did you know that Colorado is the only State where you can buy an over-the-counter bull elk license? All public land areas are heavily oversubscribed. Our hope is that we draw your area again, so we can return. Please click on the button below and enter your information and deposit amount. Highlights: experiencing the culture, the native skinners and trackers. There is an amazing amount of antelope on that place. This branch, covered in a little blood at the exit wound, is called a "BRUCH" in german and is the traditional gift to the successful hunter in Germany. Serving Sportsmen for over 45 years! Oh, but, then, we have to boast about the fantastic hunting year we had. The climate change is truly affecting the hunting success. The State will also refund your license fee, less the $30 for the preference point, if you made that selection. From the beginning we were treated as cherished friends, not simply clients. All in all, it was a great hunt and I look forward to visiting the ranch again in the future - maybe with a mule deer tag in my pocket next time. If there are NO available accommodations, hunters may stay in town at their own cost or take advantage of our CAMPING spaces available WITH FULL & UNLIMITED USE OF HOT SHOWERS & BATHROOMS AT THE HEADQUARTERS. Contact Info. It is a well known fact that the elk herds of Northwestern Colorado are the biggest in North America. In just 2.5 days our party of two wives and two husbands caught and landed 19 giant Redfish, with 17 of them over 40" and several over 50"! If you look closely at the pictures of Alex after he downed his first cow elk, you can see that he is holding a branch in is right hand. Caught Blue Marlin, Striped Marlin, and Sailfish. & Refund Policy. He paid lesser amounts at least twice so he's not against the concept. Fee: Application Fee: $15: Conservation Stamp: $21.50: . So, don't hesitate to call me and book your hunts on the ranch and your stay in the cabins. A modern GPS makes it completely simple and comes at a lower price than most trespass fees.. IC B3 Re: Wyoming ranch for antelope. We always had respectable bucks here, but, this year, the number of aged and bigger bucks was indeed impressive. Until next fall., And, again, against my best expectations, I am very late updating this website.. we also offer Blue Ribbon Fishing. My grandson was able to make the shot and had his large pronghorn on the ground within two hours after legal shooting light. We have more than 2 preference points each for Antelope and Deer but can't seem to find a zone that we can hunt both in without access to private land. The antelope herds look great, with most of the does having 2 fawns, the mule deer herds look fantastic, too. Brennen C. This is a mix of several commonly owned ranches (and some land-locked public ground that is not generally legally-accessible by the public), with an exceptional population of Wyoming speed goats. Its common to take your animals in a single day. We glassed lots of big bulls, but they were in the timber with cows and would not move or come to a call. He flew in from Kuwait. I will definitely be trying to draw that tag again every year! Date: TBD. ", "Thank you for giving my daughter and I a great hunt and experience. I was soon settled in my cabin with more help than was needed. The Ranch offers elk, deer, and pronghorn. It's a Michael/Annabelle and friends' tradition, that they have been putting on for the last 10 years. I have a friend with a few points, so maybe I can talk him into it for next year and I can use his points to draw. Life on the "Y Lazy S Ranch" is always busy. In conclusion this place is just a real special place, what makes it special is the people, the attention to detail, the love of what they do, AWESOME!! What a wonderful place to hunt. Again, THANKS, for taking such good care of us and we would like to hunt with you again next year, if possible. It started early, in the midst of a cold but snowless winter, only to be followed by a Spring that brought no wildflowers, no grass, but worst yet, NO crops of any kind. With over 55,000 acres to hunt, which is close to 90 square miles, hunts are limited to one or two parties at a time, with a maximum of four to six hunters at any time; and often there are only 2 hunters. And, all three scored big with their beautiful bull elk. I had a great time hunting and hanging out with both, you and Monte this year. Did you know that Moffat County has more elk than any other County in Colorado? Our hunter who traveled the longest distance to come hunting this year, was John Spain. As you view both the pictures below and the added gallery you will notice that we can provide a wide arrange of hunting areas for your next Antelope Hunt with a wide selection of genetics and trophies. 89 Muddy Creek Road, Buffalo, WY 82834 (307) 217-1401 wadetaylorta@gmail.com: Wyoming Antelope, Mule Deer, Whitetail Deer and Elk Hunts State of Wyoming license # BG-166 : Welcome to . We did get some nice rains late in the fall, and many of the hunters noted that it was unusually green for so late in the fall. ACCOMMODATIONS, always upon availability), Please, check with COLORADO PARKS AND WILDLIFE TO VERIFY DATES FOR ALL SEASONS FOR, ROCKY MOUNTAINELK, MULE DEER, PRONGHORNANTELOPE, All Mule Deer licenses are by draw ONLY., Second and Third Season Elk licenses can be purchased overthecounter.. Feb 24, 2020 #3 wytx WKR Joined Feb 2, 2017 Messages 1,763 Location Wyoming See if the county has a GIS web page that has a map and shows landowners names. Thank you so much for allowing me to come and hunt on your land! Below is a list of landowners in each region offering hunting access for antelope. Great place for spouses and families. The amount of deer on the property is just unbelievable. I also saw some really big woodland caribou (next trip). I could go on for hours, but suffice to say, I took 10 animals; my buddy Chris took 8; and we would not change one single thing! But, hurry. Lots of BLM land to hunt on, without the need to pay a fee. You will only need to bring your sleeping bag, your towels and personal toiletries. Book your hunt today. Depending on your preferences, you can choose to travel via horseback, hiking, or 4WD with the archery-guided antelope hunts we offer. I believe though, that his wife's buck was bigger. 2021 Wyoming elk trespass hunt buckwalleye Nov 13, 2020 Nov 13, 2020 #1 B buckwalleye Lil-Rokslider Joined Mar 12, 2018 Messages 234 Did my first western hunt in 2018 Colorado otc archery elk. ( I only had one major request and that was extra blankets and a minor, for a candle-----I knew that I would be up every morning before the generator would come on). Finally, all hunting has ceased on the "Y Lazy S Ranch". I also saw a small handful of elk at both the Cummings and the Mobley place. And, look forward to another gret hunting season next year and hanging out with you guys again. , The best part of hunting the "Y Lazy S Ranch" is meeting the landowner, Aleka.the abundant game is secondary. I do have a ranch that offers trespass fee hunting. If you are wanting to kill a nice antelope, I would look elsewhere or try to find a place to pay a trespass fee. Excellent quality and quantity of trophy stag and other species. P.S. Thank you for the trip of a lifetime! Dad killed a 400 stag and a 12 inch tahr. Yes, the elk are here and their numbers are very good. Nobody asked me, but, I think that these guys are spolied for life. If anybody considers a fun hunt, with almost guarranteed success, I would highly recommend hunting this season. ****************. The two stages refer to a preference point system, and a random draw system. I cant recommend them enough. When I got home, I tried some of the venison and it was the best I've ever eaten. Great experience, hunted hard, felt like we were in elk - tons of sign, scat, beds,.found a couple wallows that looked like they were getting hit. We host many hunters, which have become our friends. You can expect to see lots of animals every day you hunt. Of course,on the, ", email: . It's often said that there's more antelope in Wyoming than people, but a succession of tough winters and summer droughts knocked back their numbers to around 400,000 a few years ago. That animal was 17.75 " and a very high score. We pulled a stalk on a 6x6 with cows down in the valley, got in front of them, and shot him at 150 yards. So, simply, any one species, four nights lodging and hunting, any two species, the length of the season. NORTHEASTERN WYOMING'S PREMIER PRIVATE LAND HUNTS HUNTS TYPES OF AVAILABLE HUNTS Rawhide Creek Ranch offers both Rifle and Archery hunting. The elk are here. During the fourth combined season, we had no deer hunters. All the best and hoping to draw the right tags so we can come back next year. Wildhorse Outfitters, . It's not unusual to see two or three herds at once, of anywhere from 200 to 2000 in each herds. Dinners were superb, the bar was excellent (watch out for their rum punch!). They were relentless in their efforts to get me on a big Tom and they did. Housing accommodations(in our GORGEOUS LOG CABINS. We are a family owned business that strive to provide our customers with a quality hunting experience. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020. The guy that should get a medal for effort, though, is Vince from Wisconsin. Appreciate it. Thats a really good feeling when on a hunt. We really appreciate the way that you looked after us personally, and even changed your personal plans to allow us to start one weekend earlier than originally planned. The Ranch is a 20,000+ acre privately owned outfitting and cattle Ranch. We have approximately 110,000 acres of private ground to hunt and sit at about 4,000 feet in . Private land Buck Antelope $ 995 reduced to only $ 495 for the last four seats. The guides are bow hunters and know their stuff. And then, the weather really co-operated. All was well! I had a great time hunting and hanging out with both, you and Monte this year. Thanks for the opportunity; you are a great resource! A $295 deposit for a 3-day hunt or $395 for a 5-day hunt will be due before the draw to reserve you a spot on the ranch. Guides spoke great English, were adept and patient. Second and third rifle Deer and Elk combined seasons, brought us many new hunters, many new friends. The accommodations were excellent and the new addition of flat screen TVs in all the cabins were very much appreciated. Map reading is fairly simple. Hours. We had ample opportunity to take quality animals and never felt rushed or pressured to take a shot at an animal we werent happy with. With the Special, you may draw at 3 or 4 points or even fewer. Ill attach a picture too. I was done hunting in 1 1/2 days. Happy with a nice buck. What are people here paying for trespass fees for antelope in Wyoming? The advantage of hunting with Wagonhound Outfitters on our private land is that our goal is to help you find the right trophy! Bow and Rifle deer hunting are the most popular services offered. We loved our cabin- equipped with everything anyone would need! We had a great time and I would highly recommend it. We will be in north central WY next fall chasing goats. The ranch trusts us to deal with everything about the hunt, so do NOT bother them. Antelope season was once again really great. | Privacy Policy, Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association. Antelope: $341.00 Youth Antelope: $125.00. That is very rare in Colorado. In order to hunt, you need some good binoculars, a flat-shooting rifle (minimum of .243 class and up), some leather gloves for crawling, and some thick pants or knee pads that help ward off the abundant cactus. Here are a couple pics of the bucks we got today. Great success with pronghorn antelope and mule deer during archery season. That is, almost everybody. I hunted one place in area 26 where they charged just enough [$50] to offset the cost of patrolling their land during hunting season. We enjoyed very much the new friends and customers we were blessed to meet. "Y Lazy S Ranch Llc. I am referring to the weather, which, without doubt is no longer the same as it used to be over the length of the time I have been here. Permitted by the MBNF as an equal opportunity provider. They delivered everything they said they could and more. Those participating in guided archery hunts should note that the average shot is between 20 to 30 yards, but hunters should be adept at up to 40 yards for best results. It is so hard to shake off the "Christmas" lazy, festive spirit and get down to get some work done. View our current jobs, PRIVACY POLICY BUT YOU SHOULD BE APPLYING FOR POINTS, AND EVERYONE NEEDS THEM! ", "I really had a great time. For several years we have only had about 6-10 hunters per year, due to fewer tags being available under the draw. I hunted with a great guide, plenty of local knowledge, and a nice young man to be around. Wyoming has the largest antelope population in the country. Food & Beverage Products; Manufacturing Products 1579 N Main Street Ste 100 PO Box 250 Cedar City, UT 84721 Phone: (435) 865-1020 Thank you again. . Tony was very professional, low key and knowledgeable. Not a single surprise in the whole trip. Are you ready, hunters? We offer 4 Day Antelope only hunts for both Archery and Rifle based out of our Hunting Lodge as it is generally easy to move around and see a wide array of Antelope. THE CHAPMAN CABIN OR THE UPSTAIRS OF THE RANCH HOUSE) for a maximum of five, six or nine nights (depending on the season), . Butch- He is absolutely, and without doubt, the finest outfitter I have ever had the pleasure to meet and hunt with! This option is only available when we don't have paid hunters & is not available for scheduling in advance. Wyoming is a premier Trophy Hunting destination for Elk, Mule Deer and Antelope. The earlier we receive your final payment, the greater selection of hunt dates available. Herd, after another large herd, they left the high country and they moved on to our ranch. Rebooked for 2016. The Russians were extremely accommodating. First few days of October, we got a pretty nice little storm that got the elk anxious to move to the lower country. I have hunted all over, on many guided hunts, and this PH of yours is hands down- the finest I have ever known! But remember, you want to buy that preference point between June and October the year before your hunt, or else cross fingers and apply . The outfitter, his dad, and our guide, Bob, were just great. The accommodations were top notch. I am writing to let you know that I had the time of my life with Francois, Reino, Matthew, Saar and the entire family and his staff.. From start to finish (and what a finish it was), the entire experience was exactly what I needed at exactly the right time for me. The landowner gets paid by the State for each hunter, so if you fail to return the landowner tag portion of the license, Hunt Nation will ultimately lose the right to hunt there! Nonresident Fees. Applications -Wyoming Game and Fish Dept website: January1- May 31st. It's been very difficult getting this far along, but, hey, we're tough folks. "Losers visualize the penalties of failure, Winners can ONLY see the rewards of success"., I don't expect this project to be completed by next fall whenall my friends, the hunters, will be here, but, beginning with the 2012 year, we should be able to also serve meals on the premises and provide everybody with the ultimate HUNTING experience. A point is just $30. There are some exceptional antelope in this remote area, which is encompassed entirely by private lands. If you want to participate in a three-day trophy antelope tent camp hunt in September, it is a Type 1 hunt conducted in Area 47, open to residents and non-residents and the application deadline is in late May, this hunt takes over 4 points to draw. "2115 County Road 3P. Hospitality and food was outstanding. Hi Joan& Butch. It seems this will be our last year going to Wyoming as they are making it really difficult to plan an out of state hunt Butch: Thanks for another awesome hunt. This website designed and created by your hostess: who is solely responsible for the accuracy of all information. The accommodations were FIRST CLASS all the way. O. Business Several thousand again. In 2010, the state was home to half a million animals. Alex and I want to say a big "Danke" and "Thank you" once more for this wonderful hunt that led to Alex's first ELK harvest. This year again, I received many nice comments from the many wonderful friends. We never tired of seeing all the wildlife. 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