I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM) cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where the prototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. I have some vague recollecction the coach was Soo Line but no longer recall why I think that. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. They have truck-mounted couplers for operation on sharp curves. Their passenger cars are decent though. Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. -- I don't care for stripping cars, but I'll need to before I paint up one in Wabash. On the 18" line I did run them forward and backward and no problem, I also ran them through one turnout. 2022 Vintage HO Athearn Santa Fe SW-1 Switcher Loco . Most of them are made to negotiate smaller radii. I'm glad its a steam that I am getting. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. Some Rivarossi cars come with interior details, but most of my pre-used ones didn't. I'm afraid they'll vanish from the marketplace, Modeling the Wabash from Detroit to Montpelier MDC Roundhouse made some 60 ft. Harriman passenger cars. They are decent looking although not prototypical. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green' wasn't GREEN at all. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. Back then I was able to order interiors for all of them. I was running quite slow backwards if that makes any difference. Super cheap? I some times take the Fife Shuttle and deliver Dan's trailer to him there in Fife. By todays standards they are average. Rivarossi The company was founded in 1945 in Como, Italy by Alessandro Rossi. These sets occasionally appear now on eBay, with 4 car sets often going for around $100. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. I bought a set from the same vendor a couple of weeks ago. Gene Chief Brass Hat Virginia Tidewater and . There is a set of the Riverossi 60' Santa Fe coaches on ebay right now. Coaches 2097, 2098, 2099, were similarly sized and equipped.So there's 8 passenger cars in the 70ft overall length range, certainly not a fleet but yet more than the odd singleton. This required modifications to the underframe to accommodate the center mounting point versus the older Rivarossi asymmetrical approach. HO Rivarossi Northern Pacific 60' Heavyweight HWT Passenger Car Set NP 8010023602336 | eBay Hi! No 61 Flesh - Matt 2.69. They came without lights but they did have empty rows of seats. In 1960 the first passenger cars modeled after American prototypes appeared in the Rivarossi catalog. manage your account online and more! 60' cars. From coach cars to baggage cars to sleeper cars and dining cars, we have a wide selection of options in HO scale, O Scale, N Scale, and more for you as you build out your model train layout. I have 3 coaches and a baggage car. They are much more free rolling, They come with body mounted couplers out of the box (but the set I got were McHenry rather than Kadee). I don't know if wjstix has had experience with these particular cars, or just body mounted couplers on 60' cars acting up on less than 24" radius. More weight (depending how much) will make the cars ''track'' better. The Rivarossi combine and coach are supposed to be models of C&NW Chicago area commuter cars, which, of course were generally shorter than intercity cars. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi /IHC & AHM Passenger car NMRA horn hook coupler Lot Of 12 Couplers new at the best online prices at eBay! A lot of work but I wanted to keep the car for whatever reason. There were short mail cars and combines but few if any short coaches. Can anyone comment about Rivarossi passenger cars? I was looking on ebay and saw numerous ads for rivarossi 1920 era pass. I thought the original trucks looked good enough to use, although for a time IHC offered a better quality replacement truck that was very nicely detailed, but also with 31" metal wheelsets. If anyone has some good ideas on how to upgrade these passenger cars I'd appreciate it. They have springy diaphrams on the end doors. I do agree that they would be nice additions, so a passenger train could be modeled that would look good on a home layout. See my web sites for my real address. The RPOs and baggage cars (with 6 wheel trucks) were in general passenger service, while the 4 wheel truck combines and coaches were used primarily (perhaps exclusively) in Chicago commuter service. I've searched for replacement trucks but don't know what to look for. OK, Capt'n, here's how the story of ~60 ' cars currently goes Rivarossi introduced its line of quality 60' cars (baggage, RPO, combine, coach) a few years agojust prior to going into some serious financial straights. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 4. Starter Sets & Gift Sets . Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Consist #2 - 13 Cars 920-829 Advanced Reservation Availability: Sold Out Expected: 01-Feb-2024 HO Scale $1,535.00 View Product Add to Wishlist HO Scale WalthersProto Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Washington Section - 3 Cars 920-830 Advanced Reservation I have a trio of 2-8-8-2 Mallets. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probablylike cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. Rivarossi have been making HO scale cars since the early 1950s. They come with or without interiors. Thanks Don! Riva Rossi presents the iconic Pullman 60 ft. passenger coaches that ran for many decades all over the country being pulled by early diesels and steam locomotives from the 1920S through the early 1950S. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. Mostly the heavweights were models of Santa Fe prototypes. Do they use European-style Have some questions about these new "ACF coaches." Baggage 60 foot Harriman arch roof: 6029 - Pullman-built 1909 for O&C 6025-6034 series. The coaches/combine they modeled appear to be C&NW specific, but maybe we will see other 'old' passenger cars brought out by Walthers. Thank goodness I was home to see your post right away. You just select which one your prototype used. I am looking at getting a four car set of rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars in GN livery. from My. I have had an Alco C420 for years and although the detail is not the highest is does run very well. The 60' commuter cars were replaced and scrapped as the 85' bi-level cars began being delivered in 1956. Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. I appreciate any info. Plus of course, none of the AHM/Rivarossi/IHC cars are connected to what the OP bought. These really need to be re-trucked with proper flange width axles, and you have to plug the talgo-type snap pin hole for a solid screw mount. High quality? If Shorter passenger cars are your thing, you might also look into ebay (or similar) for some older Athearn Blue Box kits. Adding diaphragms helps appearance too. They were very good quality for the 60's and 70's. Yes the flanges were large and ran best on code 100 rail. It is always Fun to meet other modelers, the invite to Visit the Columbia Gorge Model Railroad Club is always good, let me know if it ever works out for You. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Rivarossi & Custom HO Scale Passenger Cars [5], Passenger Car Interior KIT for the IHC/Rivarossi Corrugated-Side Observation Car. Rivarossi used to put out two 4 car passenger sets. The Proto Budd RPO is 65'. RIVAROSSI HO gauge 4 CAR PASSENGER SET - GREAT NORTHERN EMPIRE - 6944 BOXED | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. I was informed that they did up a few sets for Union Pacific and Great Northern apparently in partnership with Walthers. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. I think we need more details. I'll just add that a few years back I modified my Rivarossi Budds with metal wheels and filled the cavities in the underframe with BB pellets which were covered with glue. While the models' detailing may match nobody's actual car, the 60 foot length certainly does - for instance, the floor plan I'm looking at right now for L&N "Mail cars 1106 to 1112 including 1114". $5 - $ . For those, I used sheet styrene to create interior walls and partitions, and added RIX/PikeStuff seats'. In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a color they often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often some kind of dark olive green. Fetters and Alco worked together to develop . The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. Kadee HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi Conversion Coupler, 4-Wheel Brand: Kadee 10 ratings $967 See more About this item Includes highly-detailed pieces. The assembled structure measures 5. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. I think it was Don that said no problem, even on 18" curves, which doesn't surprise me. (BTW I believe the Athearn ones are 63' and 67' respectively.) However, they will have an enormous amount of overhang even at 30", especially the Walthers. I recently bought an eight car, Rivarossi streamline train in CNW on ebay. I don't own any yet, unfortunately. I've since replaced them with KDs. HO Scale Baltimore Ohio Royal Blue Passenger Set B - RIVAROSSI 6909, Knuckle Cpl. Big dog's bark is definitely worse than his bite ( never bit anyone that I know of, but he is intimidating, if you don't know him) Plan on lots of time in there, after you wander around awhile, LeRoy will talk your ears off. All photos I recall of similar ATSFcars were "Pullman" green, as were CB&Q cars through WWII. I've been doing some reading and have learned that most people replace the wheels and or trucks. $120.90 we did not have the truck tuner tool back then either. Those coaches look short. SO tomorrow I am picking up a Rivarossi 2-8-8-4. well from what i have seen very nice engines.had a few that were nice before i sold them on ebay. or 16oz.They tracked even better, and their behaviour was a lot more prototypicalthe best I can describe it was that the cars rolled ponderouslyno shimmy, no shake, nothing toylike about them at all. Rivarossi Plastic HO Model Railroad Passenger Cars Best Selling HO Rivarossi 85' Canadian National1930 Sleeper Car # 2615 $31.00 New Rivarossi Union Pacific 60ft Baggage Car HO Scale Trains HOPC 6 (2) $79.99 New Rivarossi 6901 HO Atchison Topeka & Santa FE Barnum Coach and Passenger Set $58.99 New I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. JavaScript is disabled. Again DON'T judge them from the road. The interiors an be purchased separately. They are advertised to handle 18 inch curves, and they do. I've got 3 Rivarossi coaches and a baggage car. Thank you. On those, I have replaced the trucks with Walthers passenger trucks. Hi. There were later runs where the wheelsets improved but I still replaced these with Kadee wheels. It has everything except smoke. I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. Deutsche Bahn, RhB, SBB, und BB Modelleisenbahn, http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showthread.php?t=22525. Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tying to create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for all railroads in all eras and circumstances. Bid Live on Lot 4105 in the Model Train Sale Auction from Vectis Auctions Ltd. Rivarossi is a European company so the earlier stuff isn't built to American standards (but when they realized the steamer market in the states, they quickly changed) . These were not really prototypical. it is your call, but i would try the 33 inch wheel sets in one car and see if i was happy with that. I'm not super concerned with the level of detail, I just want to know how the cars are overall. The dealer claims they can run on 18 inch radius. Bundles. However, I don't do too much, just adding say 1 oz. I have some of those 60' cars from when they were made by Walthers - Trainline. The short combine and coaches were used on locals - look at some of the C&NW picture books that are out. all with clerestory roofs. . We'll follow up with any questions or to make an offer. Appreciate it.. Rivarossi HO #2882 1920 Pullman -Southern Pacific Night Fern RTR NIB! 5217-5219 - St Louis Car-built 1937. I used motive power with body mounted couplers with no problem. After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. The Set A and Set B are OK cars. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. Thanks to our extensive list of HO Scale coupler conversions it's easier than ever to fit Kadee Couplers onto your locomotives and rolling stock. Tender wheels I just replace. . 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